纪念吾儿黎圣方、圣德 In Ever Loving Memory to My Dear Sons Lai Shen Fang & Shen De

随着家婆在2012年10月，癌发短短21天就往生之后，尘归尘、土归土，所有的事情都沉淀了下来，家族里一切的恩怨情仇总算告一段落。。。

以慈悲來消解仇恨，惡性因果循環停止了;　
以宗教情懷來寬容，人生才能真正地圓滿。

圣方获得超渡已往极乐净土了，圣德投胎成圣田也长大上学了。
我们的日子也平静地度过，行善、持素、念经、放生，祈福予身边的每一人.....

事隔三年，2015年11月，小婶Ｊ患上乳癌，而且是最毒的一种，马上进行切除手术及电疗。劫后余生，夫妇俩开始逐步持素，也慢慢接触佛法，性情有了改变。

2016年6月的某一天，就在我参与台湾功德山上宽下台大法师亲自来槟城主持的八关斋戒回来之后的第二天，小婶Ｊ忽然私讯我，询问他们一家三口的命论。

最教我惊讶的是，她主动提到圣田投胎自我的亡儿圣德的事，原来这个我以为会是一辈子的秘密，她早知道而且竟然主动向我提起了。

妯娌俩都是隔代儿子的亲娘，一时之间很投缘，也彼此安慰。

她表示高兴圣田有多一个人疼爱，况且她本身患癌属於高危族，何时离开也不知道，至少还有我这位“前世亲娘”继续看顾圣田。

这是我从来没想过的局面。
从２００７年延仁师父、医生、２０１５年卢台长处先后证实圣德投胎成圣田之后，这些年来，圣田一天天长大，与我们“前世父母”及“前世姐姐”枚姐姐都很投缘，我们也一直都以平常心看待，我不想引起小婶的误会，想不到是她主动提起了投胎及往后看顾圣田的课题。

[11:01, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Saosao, Can share what Lu Tai Jang said bout pa?
[11:02, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: He didn't share that i have cancer too?
[11:02, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: he said this family 业力很重. more particular one i need to check back my book
[11:06, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: u remember i told u all my whole body was shivering for nearly one hour, after listening to him, all the way from his private suite room at Equatorial Hotel back to town
[11:06, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Saosao, u mean i ask for me too? Or just Lai family?
[11:07, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: U ask for me too?
[11:07, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: I remember u told me but didn't share in details after that
[11:07, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: U just said u scared that's all
[11:08, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: Lai family generally....u & i both are to pay back the debt 嫁来这个家还债的
[11:08, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: yeah...i didnt disclose much because i worried maybe some of u may feel unhappy or uneasy
[11:09, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: That's i understand cos m so call with 心灵法门
[11:09, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: Lin is escaped and changed to good fortune after she married to the 有福报的家
[11:09, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Glad u keep the record...hope u share all with me and khoen...
[11:09, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: We shd b able to handle
[11:10, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: are u sure u want to know??????
[11:10, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: i believe him so much...so accurate....that;s why i keep shivering
[11:11, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Anyway, even though is to pay back....m still 知足 what we have now.... will nian jing and little house to pray for better when we leave
[11:11, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Questions ....
[11:11, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Hope u dun mind i direct ya
[11:11, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Can i ask?
[11:12, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: ??
[11:13, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: I want to ask...cos u did mentioned couple of time u believed Lu Tai Jang....but how come u didn't follow his teaching?
[11:13, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: The daily homework, little house and fang seng?
[11:13, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: The 3 things
[11:15, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: yes, i truly believe him on his super power but not following his method because he is 乘离正道，不是正信佛法. We do chanting nian jing & fang seng regularly
[11:15, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: chanting and fang seng is the 佛教正道 but not the little house
[11:16, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Oh...tx for sharing
[11:17, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: what we following is the 正道
[11:17, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: actually 很多修行人都有这些超力量，我也认识
[11:26, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: to be frank, KT's schoolmates are talking behind abt KT believing......including 泽荣
[11:26, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: the fatty guy we met at Hui Yin Seh last trip told me
[11:27, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: i replied him i respect other people's choice....there is no bad or wrong....
[11:29, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Ya...nvm la....so long we nian da bei jo and xin jing....
[11:30, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: That's the usual jing....not the " chair kao" in Cantonese
[11:30, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: 😂😂😂😂
[11:30, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Can read ah
[11:31, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: 🤔 dont know
[11:33, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: oh ok got it 邪教
[11:34, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Hehehhe
[11:34, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Khoen seems good after tge nian jing so...shd b ok
[11:35, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: But still nian jing
[11:36, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: 佛教 do encourage people to nian jing and take vege
[11:38, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: So now at least khoen did both
[11:38, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Just not 100% 佛教

[11:38, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: U have me khoen and Tian sharing from lu tai jang?
[11:40, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: thats good enough on his drastic change. I remember both KT & pa ma always gave strong objections to me when i tried to persuade them to less eat meat
[11:41, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: I will ask Khoen want to hear from u what u heard from lu tai jang about me, him and tian onot...
[11:42, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: U will share with us? Lu tai jang said shd share with us?
[11:43, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: why u suddenly ask?? u really want to know? u wont angry or other emotions? sometimes its hard to accept....
[11:44, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: We listen together with khoen la...our next visit
[11:45, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: actually KT knew some years ago....that time my sifu also can "see"...i didnt prepare to tell but ma was so big mouth to tell KT....and last year, i was so scared listening to what Lu told me....double confirm

[11:45, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Is it about tian is yr son?
[11:46, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: u know already??????
[11:46, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Yes i know about tau tai thing
[11:46, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: i told myself i wont tell
[11:47, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: I believed the tau tai...will b all family moving around
[11:48, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: do u know ma asked u to do something on me....to bring the 胎灵 to u
[11:48, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Can b gong gong, or whoever Lai family that move around
[11:49, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: the most accurate is within 49 days
[11:48, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Ma do something on u to bring tian to me?
[11:49, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Then shd b tian also owe me haha and now to me to pay back...or to me to ask something from me
[11:49, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Haha
[11:49, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: All still yian fen kua
[11:49, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Yuan fen
[11:49, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: My pinyin is bad ya...
[11:50, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Not the correct pin yin
[11:50, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Haha
[11:50, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Just like what lu tai jang said...all things happen with reason
[11:50, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Either pay back to ask for things
[11:51, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: If come to me to ask for things... if i know better off....can nian more jing
[11:51, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: If no yuan, whatever ma do...won't work
[11:52, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Or since it works...accept it lor...
[11:52, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: phew...i m relief at least u understand. Over the years, u have asked me several times on this sensitive issue...i dare not tell. Koko also said no need to tell. We dont want u to misunderstand us

[11:52, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Again...back to tian given to me is to pay back or ask for things...
[11:53, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: but do u know how ma replied me when i checked back with her on my sifu findings.....she said, nvm la, either your son or KT' son , also my soon soon !
[11:53, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Watched the ghost story...story also about family member waiting for next family to pregnant
[11:54, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: In a way, ma is correct
[11:54, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: So long ma didnt 害 yr son, force to give to me
[11:54, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: she said pity KT no kid...is NOTHING to take mine to yours
[11:55, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: 害 or no 害，都已过去，都已放下
[11:55, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: According to lu tai jang...mayb thats yr son Yuan with u for few months...
[11:55, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Duno u accept that onot
[11:56, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: already found out the reason and prayed. Settled their debt
[11:56, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Yup...about debt
[11:56, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: sifu not interpreted this way ...
[11:57, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: If it is about debts, ma didn't 害你。
[11:57, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: It's her debts too
[11:57, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: And u and me is to pay back as what u said.
[11:58, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Also her debts to Lai family as second wife
[11:58, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: All individual ada debts
[11:58, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: yes, i know i m coming to this famiyl to pay back...that's why i 放下
[11:59, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: All bcos u did something in yr previous life to Lai family
[11:59, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: the no son curse already over with the pay back of Sheng De life
[11:59, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: That's y current life u need to pay back...same goes to me
[12:00, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Same goes to sheng De...what he have done past life....
[12:00, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: What sheng tian past life he have done...
[12:01, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: This current life come to me but not other more richer family
[12:01, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Etc etc
[12:01, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: 应果

[12:01, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: all these family issues has been so long long ago never cross my mind
[12:01, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: M studying that too
[12:02, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: My past life determine my current
[12:02, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: My current will determine my next life
[12:02, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Same goes to u...accept u have done something on yr past life, thats y u need to pay back
[12:03, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Lai family didn't owe us....we owe them actually
[12:03, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: We do better for our next life
[12:04, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Thank god we r human...we can do something to pay back and do something for our next life
[12:04, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Animal will not have chance to nian jing to have better next life
[12:04, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Some animal do have to pay back too....
[12:05, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: animal do have 轮回 as well
[12:06, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Yup....but animal how to nian jing? So need to wait next life i guess...
[12:06, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: That's little i read
[12:07, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Anyway, since oredy 放下..nothing about u owe Lai family or Lai family owe u...or me....Important we understand 应果
[12:07, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: that's why i dont feel anymore regret to ma. I did my best to her to make her good. I took care of her full heartedly on her final days with the dirty things and her urine on me.....
[12:08, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: i nvr say Lai family owe us... it is we the sim pu who owe the family
[12:08, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: 👍🏻
[12:08, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: what we going through is to pay back our debt to this family too
[12:08, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: So what is next haha...
[12:09, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: so what about your own family? can help?

[12:09, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Anything that lu tai jang mentioned about pa?
Or shd just accept as it is....the running toilet?
[12:10, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Shd do RT onot?
[12:10, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Shd bring pa to Melaka chinese medication onot?
[12:11, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Brb
[12:14, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: aiyo....Lu didnt go such detail one la. He only said all pa suffering now is because his 业力太重, he cant escape, must go thought by his own
[12:14, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: go through*
[12:30, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: That case will go with pa wish...

[17:42, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: I m curious. Who told u abt Tian tou tai from De? U know long ago?
[17:43, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: So is sheng de...the second one?
[17:43, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: What about sheng fang btw?
[17:43, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Disturb sheng mei is sheng fang or de?
[17:44, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Did yr si fu share where sheng de came from?
[17:44, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: Yes. Feb 2007. U conceived within the 49 days
[17:45, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: Fang who disturb because he was the eldest but everyone forgot him. Fang missed the chance to tou tai within 49 days
[17:46, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Then tou tai to where liao?
[17:46, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: Who told u long ago ?
[17:46, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Can't remember when
[17:47, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: I though this is a forever secret
[17:47, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Tou tai nothing what...no?
[17:47, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: So sheng fang tau tai onot then? What lu tai jang said?
[17:48, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: That time I double check with dr. And the answer given to me was so scarily accurate
[17:48, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Tou tai not normal?
[17:50, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: Of course tou tai is very normal for every life. But normally ppl don't know where and who
[17:51, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: U didn't ask lu tai jang sheng de tau tai from where/who?
[17:55, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: No

[17:56, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: U ask y sheng de no yuan with u? Or is it that the few months is to bau ern to u?
[17:57, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: Yes this one I know the answer
[17:57, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: I heard from lu tai jang b4, few months is also yuan fen and bao ern.
[17:57, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Sheng de is yr previous husband or wife or what?
[17:57, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: Huh
[17:57, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Is past life...normally lu tai jang will share rite?
[17:58, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: I didn't ask he didn't tell
[17:58, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Past life, i could b sheng tian lover or m khoen husband, etc...all related

[18:02, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Is it bordering u that sheng de tau tai to sheng tian?
[18:02, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Anything u wish me to do?
[18:06, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: I m gan en that u gave birth to him after much sufferings. I m happy still can know and see my son in his new life.
[18:08, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: Sifu said this child will be bonding to me besides parents. He will grow 叛逆 but will listen to me
[18:08, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Sorry of all the things u gone thru....m willing to mi bu 弥补 if i can...

[18:09, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: From sifu or lu tai jang?
[18:10, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: 👍🏻🙏🏻at least u around to help.
[18:11, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: More ppl love tian , he will b very sing fo
[18:11, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: Nothing for u to say sorry.
[18:13, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Good too since m high risk cancer..may leave earlier.... u can help continue take care of him 😍😍😍
[18:14, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: Both. That's why I shivered all the way
[18:15, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Then shd tell me...so i know how long more i can live
[18:15, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: Since u are telling this, yeah, sifu did say 这个孩子以后还是会回到你的身边的，but of course I don't want to see anything happ to u
[18:15, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: But is it from lu tai jang?
[18:16, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: And I didn't know u have ca at that time
[18:16, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Did lu tai jang said how long i will live?
[18:18, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: Nope. He totally didn't say abt this
[18:18, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: He didn't tell our life till when

[18:20, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Lu tai jang didn't mentioned about sheng de and sheng tian?
[18:21, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: Yes. As above told u
[18:28, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: I have told u everything now. No more secret on De & Tian. Pls don't keep any in heart. Over the years, i 以平常心看待，most important is everyone 平安无事
[18:30, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: I know how suffer u went through to get him, and how much love u grow him. He will be your good boy !
[18:39, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: I want to know more what lu tai jang said bout us....u record down?
[18:39, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: My suffer r nothing compare to yr lost...

[18:47, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Btw, have u settled sheng fang?
[18:51, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: Fang is in better place.now 极乐世界
[18:52, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: That's fantastic 👍🏻👍🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
[18:52, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: No more that u said follow u every where u go?
[18:53, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: That was many years ago. Not I said. Ppl saw him following me
[18:53, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: He even attended the kindergarten Mei went. The headmistress told me
[18:54, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Cos u also told me he follow u around...anyway, heaven is the best place ever
[18:54, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: ya u told me that...
[18:54, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Tau tai is suffering...go to heaven is best
[18:54, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: Yes. fang is forever peace there
[18:54, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: Correct
[18:55, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: U still have record lu tai jang about khoen me and tian?
[18:55, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: Today u seemed realize a lot on Buddhism. Must have been read a lot recently 👍🏻
[18:56, 6/7/2016] Wong Ewe Chin: I need to check back where i put.
But didn't say much on u individual. Only touch a bit regarding Tian
[18:57, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Not today la....i follow khoen and play alot lu tai jang video
[18:57, 6/7/2016] Lai Tan Jessie Lee Sim: Also some books khoen read to me.