2008-12-27 十二月初一祭圣方

在怡东用完晚餐后，我们载公婆回家祭拜圣方，有孕近12周的Lin姑姑一家及叔叔叔母小田都直接回Topaz.


公婆、外婆、父母及枚祭拜圣方










圣枚姐姐弹唱她在“快乐小天使合唱团”所学习的新歌给圣方听。

2008-12-22 JC accepted the 投胎事实 generally

听从专科医生的意见，刚好遇上初一祭拜圣方的日子，我就慢慢引导小婶J，让她知道圣方、圣德的来龙去脉及现况。小婶J 有充足的社会经验及人生阅历，她完全相信及接受婴灵及投胎转世的事实。她也希望圣方可以早日投胎。
只是，我无法开口告诉她，我的圣德是投胎成了她的圣田........
我太担心引起她的误会.....

我太后知后觉，我的担心是多余的。她不但知道圣德投胎转世的来龙去脉，甚至当年她是有策略地刻意来向我借胎的！
平日鲜少从吉隆坡返槟，却在我痛失圣德的49天内，四度赶来槟城见我，在我家中待留，更破天荒给了我RM300的大红包，我还一直感恩她的善良~~




[18:26] Tan Jessie: sao sao
[18:26] Tan Jessie: so lin TC and hami will b in topaz sat ?
[18:26] Tan Jessie: sunday only go perak?
[18:27] eugenice: no
[18:27] eugenice: they will come on 24Dec morning, stay a noght at topaz, then 25 go to ipoh
[18:27] eugenice: eh
[18:27] eugenice: yup
[18:27] eugenice: they probably will come back on Sat, then Sun fly back
[18:28] eugenice: probably
[18:28] Tan Jessie: so still got chance to meet sat...hmmm....now where to stay ah? lin room like store leh
[18:29] eugenice: not to hide from u, we are going to pray Fang on 27Dec 初一
[18:29] eugenice: as what sifu asked us to do so
[18:29] eugenice: every 初一十五
[18:29] Tan Jessie: dun say that....i got nothing about fang just tat my dad say tian still small nia
[18:29] eugenice: pa ma sure will join too, with food & 金银纸
[18:30] eugenice: 27Dec is 十二月初一
[18:30] Tan Jessie: now do u have problem if i follow what my dad say?
[18:30] Tan Jessie: like not comfortable?
[18:30] eugenice: i m fine...it depends on u
[18:30] eugenice: oh no..dont get me wrong
[18:31] eugenice: i just worried u may uncomfortable when we all pray Fang while u are at Pg
[18:31] Tan Jessie: so long u dun get angry or misunderstand me.....M and pa i dun care
[18:31] Tan Jessie: pray where?
[18:31] eugenice: u believe but dun let tian involved? or u totally not believe?
[18:32] Tan Jessie: i believe but i also listen to my dad that since tian too small must not let him involved and more over, its not like brother or sister...its relative
[18:32] Tan Jessie: tian not even 1 year
[18:33] Tan Jessie: i realy duno how to handle...sao sao..i really understand yr situation, and support u....and also sorry about what had happen
[18:33] Tan Jessie: pray in topaz or yr place?
[18:33] eugenice: fang is at my place
[18:34] eugenice: sifu talked to him at my hse
[18:34] Tan Jessie: pa ma will pray yr place or topaz?
[18:34] eugenice: M did ask sifu whether can "hok sai" at topaz too? but sifu said only one 香炉 for one
[18:35] eugenice: and Fang chose to be at my own hse
[18:35] eugenice: pa ma come
[18:35] Tan Jessie: well i think i agree with sifu leh...where got hok sai so many place? shd be own house rite?
[18:35] Tan Jessie: of cos fang will chose with u ma...
[18:36] eugenice: that was one praying, pa leg too pain, cant walk, so only ma came alone
[18:36] Tan Jessie: honestly do u feel offended when my dad say better not let tian involve?
[18:36] eugenice: she prayed to fang asking fang to help gong gong, so that gong gong can come again next 15 days later
[18:37] eugenice: true enough, pa can walk & even climbed up the staircases to come next praying
[18:37] Tan Jessie: my dad say tian not full 1 year....after 1 year can pray like cheng beng
[18:37] eugenice: i wont. becos this is really personal belief
[18:37] eugenice: i just want to listen the reasons
[18:38] eugenice: actually the stories are very long
[18:38] Tan Jessie: r u ok with the reasons?
[18:38] Tan Jessie: do i smell things like if no pray no good?
[18:38] eugenice: which reason?
[18:38] Tan Jessie: or u also believe that tian sick must pray to fang?
[18:38] Tan Jessie: reason - tian not full 1 year
[18:39] eugenice: this is just a small matter...i dont take it to heart
[18:39] eugenice: afterall, i cant ask others to pray to my son, right?
[18:39] eugenice: that night at steamboat, i duno what ma told KT (i was with u at the car)
[18:40] Tan Jessie: dun say that....my dad not say dun pray to yr son...just that wait till he is 1 year and can pray during cheng beng if come back
[18:40] Tan Jessie: ma said tian sick bcos no pray to fang
[18:40] eugenice: when i went back to the table, M said ask u to bring tian to pray
[18:40] Tan Jessie: so must go pray
[18:40] eugenice: oh no...i don agree that
[18:40] eugenice: why no pray got sick?
[18:40] Tan Jessie: phew....luckily u not like ma type
[18:40] eugenice: fang is bringing good to us
[18:41] Tan Jessie: thats what i believe too....
[18:41] eugenice: i m not buta buta percaya lah
[18:41] Tan Jessie: where can sikit sikit blame gang
[18:41] Tan Jessie: i mean fang
[18:41] Tan Jessie: ok, at least we same chanel
[18:41] eugenice: ok, that tnight
[18:41] eugenice: then KT asked me to persuade u to bring tian to my hse
[18:42] Tan Jessie: so long u dun feel offended follow what my dad say....if we come back cheng beng next year....of cos can pray
[18:42] eugenice: i said oh no...he is your son, i cannot force others to pray my son
[18:42] eugenice: if u want to come to pray, i m fine & happy
[18:42] eugenice: if u are not praying, i m also fine
[18:42] Tan Jessie: i not happy hear ma said or blame tian sick must pray fang
[18:42] eugenice: KT said he cant talk this to u, then i looked at your mum, asked if your mum can help him
[18:43] Tan Jessie: i totally disagree.
[18:43] eugenice: he said, no, your mum is amen
[18:43] eugenice: u must get this clear:
[18:43] eugenice: tian sick not bcos of fang, fang will not make tian sick
[18:43] Tan Jessie: tat nite i dun 1 to go to yr hse because first...too late and tian oredy very uncomfortable tats y we in car
[18:44] Tan Jessie: secondly i oredy very upset and no patient y they still continue eat so long
[18:44] Tan Jessie: somemore not goin back yet and have to go to yr house pray to fang ....blame the sick on him...
[18:44] Tan Jessie: i lagi hot
[18:44] Tan Jessie: so i say NO
[18:45] Tan Jessie: somemore tian not just suddenly sick...he has been sick and recovered but then we all also sick and doc also believe because the passing in the car during travelling.
[18:45] Tan Jessie: coming back penang tian again cough, again because my mom sick and cough and still take care of him.
[18:45] Tan Jessie: so doc said all marry go round
[18:46] Tan Jessie: after visit doc, my mom ok, we all ok, tian also recovering
[18:46] Tan Jessie: i also believe that fang will not make tian sick or anyone sick....fang will bring happiness to the family
[18:46] Tan Jessie: take care mei mei too
[18:47] Tan Jessie: i also remember what u say, all the things happen + mei sick because belum pray to fang rite??
[18:48] eugenice: bcos that time we all ignored abt fang
[18:49] eugenice: everyone pray to De only
[18:49] eugenice: u remembered last year Mei's night suffering?
[18:49] eugenice: that was once when u came back with pregnant, mei also suffer?
[18:50] Tan Jessie: yup so fang take care mei after praying to him?
[18:51] Tan Jessie: but one thing is fang kacau mei or other thing kacau mei?
[18:51] eugenice: we sent Mei to visit & check at all clinics, did the ultrasound on her, urine test, 甚至阴道检查
[18:51] Tan Jessie: i do remember mei suffer alot of other stuff too...like sudden scream at home but ok at yr mom's house
[18:51] eugenice: all medical checkings shows mei is fine, no injuries, no infections
[18:51] Tan Jessie: yes all that i know...i just curious is fang who disturb mei or other thing?
[18:51] eugenice: yes, all these we only found out later, by sifu
[18:52] eugenice: yes
[18:52] Tan Jessie: sifu said fang disturb mei?
[18:52] eugenice: sifu saw him, and communicate with him
[18:52] eugenice: fang felt been neglected when he compared to De
[18:52] eugenice: we did not do anything aft Fang 2005Jan
[18:52] Tan Jessie: so he kacau mei to bring attention?
[18:53] eugenice: but with De in 2007Apr, we do so many prayings for De
[18:53] eugenice: u know, aft the clear curse praying 驱咒
[18:54] eugenice: i asked sifu, how is my son? shall i pray to him (De)?
[18:54] eugenice: sifu "looked" & said "no need, your son just reincarnated 投胎"
[18:55] eugenice: he said this is blessing to be able to 投胎 within 49 days
[18:55] eugenice: but poor Fang, we did not do anything for him, so he is still remain
[18:55] eugenice: Fang not able to get chances to 投胎
[18:55] eugenice: then he shows his jealous to us, yes, to bring our attention
[18:56] eugenice: u know, at first pa not happy, said how could he made his own sis suffering
[18:56] Tan Jessie: so no need hok sai de liao then?
[18:56] eugenice: then mei suffer lagi teruk
[18:56] eugenice: aft the help of sifu, we apologised to fang
[18:56] Tan Jessie: so all the suffering because of fang?
[18:57] eugenice: for not doing any praying to him since 2005
[18:57] Tan Jessie: mei scream and canot stay yr hse...ma goto go do some of her praying ...remember?
[18:57] Tan Jessie: that also fang try to bring attention?
[18:58] eugenice: sifu said fang is fine since 2005, until he compared himself with De who able to 投胎 in 2007, then he not happy
[18:58] eugenice: but all is over now, fang is very good to us
[18:58] Tan Jessie: so the previous is other thing?
[18:58] eugenice: and look after us
[18:58] Tan Jessie: can he tau tai?
[18:58] eugenice: no, nowi think back, and check from the photos, yes, that was 2005
[18:59] Tan Jessie: ???
[18:59] eugenice: same reason, that was fang
[18:59] Tan Jessie: what?
[18:59] Tan Jessie: hmm..that make more logic rite
[18:59] Tan Jessie: ok...true also fang goto do some way to transfer msg....no choice goto get help from his sis lor
[19:00] eugenice: so, we only pray Fang, De has already 投胎, the soul has gone to other family, no need to pray anymore
[19:00] eugenice: Fang chose to be stay with us
[19:00] eugenice: yes
[19:00] Tan Jessie: remember i heard fr u that sifu said mei private part pain because of the 'floor god' that playing with her....
[19:01] Tan Jessie: i wasnt happy when i heard that cos 'floor god' shd take care of us not disturb us ma
[19:01] Tan Jessie: now make more sence
[19:01] eugenice: sifu said some souls prefer to be stay with 人间, cos they love their family too much
[19:01] Tan Jessie: then M got so many...do they need to pray ah? so many years liao wor
[19:02] eugenice: Fang missed the opportunities of 投胎 cos we did not pray for him
[19:02] eugenice: oh yes, 地主公
[19:02] Tan Jessie: cannnot have again or he choose not to?
[19:02] eugenice: i also asked sifu, why 1st time i brought mei there, u said 地主公和她开玩笑
[19:03] Tan Jessie: yup the kai wan siao....wah lau...how can
[19:03] eugenice: sifu said it was true, at that time he only saw 地主公
[19:03] Tan Jessie: very big wan siao leh....
[19:03] Tan Jessie: i very upset hear that leh
[19:03] eugenice: sifu later expalined to me that
[19:03] Tan Jessie: where can do such thing as wan siao
[19:03] eugenice: one of main responsiblties of 地主公 is to protect the young/ unborn kids
[19:04] eugenice: 婴灵
[19:04] eugenice: those aborted, those died early
[19:04] eugenice: with no parents
[19:04] eugenice: my poor Fang was under 地主公 from 2005-2007 cos we did not take care of him at that time
[19:06] eugenice: that time when i told them that sifu said 地主公开玩笑, most ppl immediately got the idea that dont wee wee at public
[19:06] eugenice: but actually mei not
[19:07] eugenice: i need to leave now, office gonna to close
[19:07] eugenice: talk again if u believe/ accept/ interested
[19:07] Tan Jessie: ok bye

时候到了，是不是不该再隐瞒？

圣田第一次返槟，和我们的车在南北大道一路并行。
由於他一离开家一小时即发烧，多天来没有好转，又泄又吐，家婆马上联想，要带他去往见师父。

临走前一晚，家婆更要小叔夫妻带着圣田到我家来祭拜圣方，我们夫妻无所谓，可是就引发了小婶J的好奇。
她接连拨打我的电话、又发了多则短讯，追问我为何家婆M 说圣田必须祭拜圣方。

我很为难，如果我告诉她因为圣田是圣方的弟弟圣德的投胎之身，她会怎样想呢？她会承受这个事实吗？她千辛万苦才诞下圣田，肯定无法接受。

孟说，时候到了，不该再隐藏这些东西。应该让全家人知道整件事的来龙去脉。
是事实，一家人之间不应隐瞒。
他也劝我别想太多，尤其是太袒护别人，太顾及别人的感受，结果自己这么辛苦，受尽委曲还再继续帮人。




















小婶J 的SMS不断，我不敢回应，急忙向儿科专科医生好友婉玲求救！

[15:51] eugenice: help!
[15:51] eugenice: need your prof help as i never study abt the psycho of parents
[16:03] Wan Lin Tan: why why? what happened? I am not a psychologist too
[16:05] eugenice: that little Tian came back
[16:07] eugenice: last weekend, the little boy came to Pg for his 1st time, together with me from KL
[16:07] eugenice: but he fever aft 1hr of driving till today, vomit & lao sai
[16:08] eugenice: medicine taken, still same

[16:08] eugenice: then my kay po MIL suddenly came out with asking the little boy to my hse to pray to his "eldest bro" Shen Fang
[16:09] eugenice: so my SIL now very curious, sms & called me for times, asking me why
[16:09] eugenice: how shall i say? shall i tell her the "truth" of how his son was actually 投胎 from my son
[16:10] eugenice: my hb said tell them whole thing, but i hesitate
[16:11] eugenice: will my sis IL accept this? she suffered so much to deliver this boy, and she spend all her effort to look & love this Sheng Tian

[16:11] Wan Lin Tan: to save you from all the trouble, i think you should tell her
[16:11] eugenice: what? u also say like this?
[16:11] Wan Lin Tan: ya..... not your fault
[16:11] Wan Lin Tan: hm... if you ask me, i'll ask her to go and ask MIL
[16:11] eugenice: but i believe she sure will angry with me, not going to let us near to his son anymore
[16:12] Wan Lin Tan: why should she be angry with you?
[16:12] Wan Lin Tan: not your fault
[16:12] Wan Lin Tan: you did not make all this happen
[16:12] Wan Lin Tan: it started from your MIL

[16:14] eugenice: u know, i m very hard

[16:15] eugenice: i put the whole incident happened to 2 half, 1 half is abt how the MIL curse made me lost 2 sons, 2nd half is how Shen De "reincarnated" to become Shen Tian
[16:16] eugenice: i keep 1st half secret away from my MIL, only told her 2nd half
[16:16] eugenice: while i told my SIL 1st half only

[16:18] Wan Lin Tan: Do you think Shen Fang wants this to be revealed to your SIL (Tian's mum?)
[16:24] eugenice: i hv no idea
[16:24] eugenice: Shen Fang never "tell" me
[16:25] eugenice: what do u think?
[16:25] eugenice: i asked MIL, she did not reveal the whole thing, just asked them to pray
[16:25] eugenice: but sure SIL wants to know why marrr
[16:25] eugenice: if i were her, i also curious to know
[16:27] eugenice: but i don think Fang will do anything to tian
[16:44] Wan Lin Tan: hm..... put yourself in her position
[16:44] Wan Lin Tan: if you are asked to pray
[16:44] Wan Lin Tan: would you want to know why
[16:45] Wan Lin Tan: the more ppl try to 'hide' from you, the more curious you get
[16:45] eugenice: yes
[16:45] Wan Lin Tan: and you tend to think the 'bad' way
[16:45] Wan Lin Tan: right?
[16:45] eugenice: so, how?
[16:45] Wan Lin Tan: hm... just let her be prepared
[16:45] eugenice: how to be prepared?

[16:45] Wan Lin Tan: tell her that concerns some 'previous lives'
[16:45] Wan Lin Tan: and if she believes and is ready to accept the truth
[16:46] Wan Lin Tan: then tell her
[16:46] eugenice: yes, this one i told her already. i told her abt my previous life
[16:46] Wan Lin Tan: collect the facts
[16:46] Wan Lin Tan: before you go into the fact that her son is reincarnated from yours
[16:46] eugenice: and another true story of 投胎在自家 in the family


[16:46] Wan Lin Tan: tell her how she conceived and when
[16:46] Wan Lin Tan: the dates
[16:47] Wan Lin Tan: she's been trying to have a baby but not success
[16:47] Wan Lin Tan: why till you lost yours then only she got one
[16:47] Wan Lin Tan: and a boy
[16:47] Wan Lin Tan: and the timing is so perfect
[16:47] eugenice: 出於保护自己的心态，我想她会反弹
[16:47] Wan Lin Tan: too many coincidences


[16:48] Wan Lin Tan: but if you don't tell, sure she'll ask
[16:48] Wan Lin Tan: keep asking
[16:48] Wan Lin Tan: till she gets an answer
[16:48] Wan Lin Tan: unless you plan to hide from her
[16:48] Wan Lin Tan: and pray that she never knows
[16:48] eugenice: but sifu said no need to tell

[16:48] Wan Lin Tan: hm....
[16:48] eugenice: worried how's her reaction


[16:49] Wan Lin Tan: make sure your MIL doesn't tell too
[16:49] Wan Lin Tan: if you don't want to tell
[16:49] Wan Lin Tan: you could just 'make up ' something
[16:49] Wan Lin Tan: like how Shen Fang is a 'dear' to the family and how he stopped the sister's (Mei) sufferings
[16:49] Wan Lin Tan: this sure your SIL knows
[16:50] Wan Lin Tan: and hopefully Shen Fang can now help the cousin brother too
[16:50] Wan Lin Tan: if you do not want to tell her the whole story, then at least tell her something that she can believe
[16:50] Wan Lin Tan: believe and convinced that why Tian must pray to Fang
[16:53] eugenice: yes, she knows all abt Mei sufferings & Fang's help
[16:53] eugenice: but both hb & wife cannot relate Fang to their son Tian
[16:53] eugenice: "why asking Tian to pray to Fang?'

[17:08] Wan Lin Tan: tell her, Fang, being a brother to Tian, will protect Tian, just like how Fang protect Mei, if they believe, they pray, if they don't , leave it. And i think they should not ask more
[17:09] eugenice: they are 新新人类 , always ask till i cannot answer
[17:10] eugenice: last yr when she got to know i pregnant, she also asked me directly: why, how? accident? u planned?
[17:10] eugenice: she so curious cos she tried hard but no news
[17:11] eugenice: aiyo...suddenly i laugh
[17:12] eugenice: u as a close friend of mine, never meet anyone of my family members, but u know everything the most detailed
[17:12] eugenice: hope u don get bored when i share with u
[17:21] Wan Lin Tan: oh please... I am honoured that you trust me and you share with me
[17:21] Wan Lin Tan: don't mention the word 'bored'
[17:22] Wan Lin Tan: it's a pity that i can't help much
[17:23] eugenice: oh no..u helped me a lot
[17:42] Wan Lin Tan: i wish i can.....
[17:42] Wan Lin Tan: i am good as a listener only
[17:44] eugenice: oh..u did comfort me a lot


我想，能够拖得一时，就拖吧！

小田竟然与我两年来梦中的圣德长得一样

小田正月出世至今都没有回过槟城，近一年了我们还不曾见面。

趁着到吉隆坡大姨新家度假，我们和小田见面了。

初次见面，有着一种特别的熟悉...........

最让我直呼不可思议的是, 小田竟然与我两年来梦中的圣德长得一样, 就像这个部落格上端的小天使一般。
还有，连小婶和她的母亲，小田的外婆都不断说小田长得和枚姐姐很相似，动作神情都像，头部形状更像！

Again, It is scarily accurate!!!

初见圣田

小田自出生到十二月近一年了都不曾回来槟城，这一次，我们趁着到金马仑游玩，下山后直驶吉隆坡过两晚。

第一次即将与圣田见面，我的心跳似乎加速了，圣枚也一样兴奋不已。
这种感觉，并不像我们第一次要见HAMI时。
因为大家都心知肚明，圣田是借胎自我的儿子圣德，我一直压抑着即将扑跳出来的心，表现得很淡定。
 
我驾着车，载着圣枚, 一路竟然转错弯，拐错路口，终於见到了。

甫踏进门，小田在睡觉，我不敢靠近。
小婶拿了圣枚小时候的照片，告诉我说她与她母亲都觉得圣田与圣枚小时候长得一模一样。我听后微笑不敢多言。

最让我直呼不可思议的是, 小田竟然与我两年来梦中的圣德长得一样, 就像这个部落格上端的小天使一般。后来，小田醒了，他看到我俩母女，不但丝毫没有生疏感，反而主动与我们“嘿” 呢！
果然，俩姐弟首度见面已玩得十分熟悉，乐在一团。
他的神情、他的小动作、他的头型、他的流汗......都与圣枚姐姐完全相像。
这些不是我说的，是小婶及她妈说的。这些真是神奇的极度相似啊！
It is scarily accurate!!!!

看着圣田快乐地成长，我很欣慰，心更安了。
小婶及父母都留我们多待下来用完晚餐再走，圣枚就有多一点时间和圣田玩了。
这一年来，她是多么的想见圣田，也常把她的东西留着改天要交给圣田，真是一位好姐姐。