听从专科医生的意见，刚好遇上初一祭拜圣方的日子，我就慢慢引导小婶J，让她知道圣方、圣德的来龙去脉及现况。小婶J 有充足的社会经验及人生阅历，她完全相信及接受婴灵及投胎转世的事实。她也希望圣方可以早日投胎。
只是，我无法开口告诉她，我的圣德是投胎成了她的圣田........
我太担心引起她的误会.....
我太后知后觉，我的担心是多余的。她不但知道圣德投胎转世的来龙去脉，甚至当年她是有策略地刻意来向我借胎的！
平日鲜少从吉隆坡返槟，却在我痛失圣德的49天内，四度赶来槟城见我，在我家中待留，更破天荒给了我RM300的大红包，我还一直感恩她的善良~~
[18:26] Tan Jessie: sao sao
[18:26] Tan Jessie: so lin TC and hami will b in topaz sat ?
[18:26] Tan Jessie: sunday only go perak?
[18:27] eugenice: no
[18:27] eugenice: they will come on 24Dec morning, stay a noght at topaz, then 25 go to ipoh
[18:27] eugenice: eh
[18:27] eugenice: yup
[18:27] eugenice: they probably will come back on Sat, then Sun fly back
[18:28] eugenice: probably
[18:28] Tan Jessie: so still got chance to meet sat...hmmm....now where to stay ah? lin room like store leh
[18:29] eugenice: not to hide from u, we are going to pray Fang on 27Dec 初一
[18:29] eugenice: as what sifu asked us to do so
[18:29] eugenice: every 初一十五
[18:29] Tan Jessie: dun say that....i got nothing about fang just tat my dad say tian still small nia
[18:29] eugenice: pa ma sure will join too, with food & 金银纸
[18:30] eugenice: 27Dec is 十二月初一
[18:30] Tan Jessie: now do u have problem if i follow what my dad say?
[18:30] Tan Jessie: like not comfortable?
[18:30] eugenice: i m fine...it depends on u
[18:30] eugenice: oh no..dont get me wrong
[18:31] eugenice: i just worried u may uncomfortable when we all pray Fang while u are at Pg
[18:31] Tan Jessie: so long u dun get angry or misunderstand me.....M and pa i dun care
[18:31] Tan Jessie: pray where?
[18:31] eugenice: u believe but dun let tian involved? or u totally not believe?
[18:32] Tan Jessie: i believe but i also listen to my dad that since tian too small must not let him involved and more over, its not like brother or sister...its relative
[18:32] Tan Jessie: tian not even 1 year
[18:33] Tan Jessie: i realy duno how to handle...sao sao..i really understand yr situation, and support u....and also sorry about what had happen
[18:33] Tan Jessie: pray in topaz or yr place?
[18:33] eugenice: fang is at my place
[18:34] eugenice: sifu talked to him at my hse
[18:34] Tan Jessie: pa ma will pray yr place or topaz?
[18:34] eugenice: M did ask sifu whether can "hok sai" at topaz too? but sifu said only one 香炉 for one
[18:35] eugenice: and Fang chose to be at my own hse
[18:35] eugenice: pa ma come
[18:35] Tan Jessie: well i think i agree with sifu leh...where got hok sai so many place? shd be own house rite?
[18:35] Tan Jessie: of cos fang will chose with u ma...
[18:36] eugenice: that was one praying, pa leg too pain, cant walk, so only ma came alone
[18:36] Tan Jessie: honestly do u feel offended when my dad say better not let tian involve?
[18:36] eugenice: she prayed to fang asking fang to help gong gong, so that gong gong can come again next 15 days later
[18:37] eugenice: true enough, pa can walk & even climbed up the staircases to come next praying
[18:37] Tan Jessie: my dad say tian not full 1 year....after 1 year can pray like cheng beng
[18:37] eugenice: i wont. becos this is really personal belief
[18:37] eugenice: i just want to listen the reasons
[18:38] eugenice: actually the stories are very long
[18:38] Tan Jessie: r u ok with the reasons?
[18:38] Tan Jessie: do i smell things like if no pray no good?
[18:38] eugenice: which reason?
[18:38] Tan Jessie: or u also believe that tian sick must pray to fang?
[18:38] Tan Jessie: reason - tian not full 1 year
[18:39] eugenice: this is just a small matter...i dont take it to heart
[18:39] eugenice: afterall, i cant ask others to pray to my son, right?
[18:39] eugenice: that night at steamboat, i duno what ma told KT (i was with u at the car)
[18:40] Tan Jessie: dun say that....my dad not say dun pray to yr son...just that wait till he is 1 year and can pray during cheng beng if come back
[18:40] Tan Jessie: ma said tian sick bcos no pray to fang
[18:40] eugenice: when i went back to the table, M said ask u to bring tian to pray
[18:40] Tan Jessie: so must go pray
[18:40] eugenice: oh no...i don agree that
[18:40] eugenice: why no pray got sick?
[18:40] Tan Jessie: phew....luckily u not like ma type
[18:40] eugenice: fang is bringing good to us
[18:41] Tan Jessie: thats what i believe too....
[18:41] eugenice: i m not buta buta percaya lah
[18:41] Tan Jessie: where can sikit sikit blame gang
[18:41] Tan Jessie: i mean fang
[18:41] Tan Jessie: ok, at least we same chanel
[18:41] eugenice: ok, that tnight
[18:41] eugenice: then KT asked me to persuade u to bring tian to my hse
[18:42] Tan Jessie: so long u dun feel offended follow what my dad say....if we come back cheng beng next year....of cos can pray
[18:42] eugenice: i said oh no...he is your son, i cannot force others to pray my son
[18:42] eugenice: if u want to come to pray, i m fine & happy
[18:42] eugenice: if u are not praying, i m also fine
[18:42] Tan Jessie: i not happy hear ma said or blame tian sick must pray fang
[18:42] eugenice: KT said he cant talk this to u, then i looked at your mum, asked if your mum can help him
[18:43] Tan Jessie: i totally disagree.
[18:43] eugenice: he said, no, your mum is amen
[18:43] eugenice: u must get this clear:
[18:43] eugenice: tian sick not bcos of fang, fang will not make tian sick
[18:43] Tan Jessie: tat nite i dun 1 to go to yr hse because first...too late and tian oredy very uncomfortable tats y we in car
[18:44] Tan Jessie: secondly i oredy very upset and no patient y they still continue eat so long
[18:44] Tan Jessie: somemore not goin back yet and have to go to yr house pray to fang ....blame the sick on him...
[18:44] Tan Jessie: i lagi hot
[18:44] Tan Jessie: so i say NO
[18:45] Tan Jessie: somemore tian not just suddenly sick...he has been sick and recovered but then we all also sick and doc also believe because the passing in the car during travelling.
[18:45] Tan Jessie: coming back penang tian again cough, again because my mom sick and cough and still take care of him.
[18:45] Tan Jessie: so doc said all marry go round
[18:46] Tan Jessie: after visit doc, my mom ok, we all ok, tian also recovering
[18:46] Tan Jessie: i also believe that fang will not make tian sick or anyone sick....fang will bring happiness to the family
[18:46] Tan Jessie: take care mei mei too
[18:47] Tan Jessie: i also remember what u say, all the things happen + mei sick because belum pray to fang rite??
[18:48] eugenice: bcos that time we all ignored abt fang
[18:49] eugenice: everyone pray to De only
[18:49] eugenice: u remembered last year Mei's night suffering?
[18:49] eugenice: that was once when u came back with pregnant, mei also suffer?
[18:50] Tan Jessie: yup so fang take care mei after praying to him?
[18:51] Tan Jessie: but one thing is fang kacau mei or other thing kacau mei?
[18:51] eugenice: we sent Mei to visit & check at all clinics, did the ultrasound on her, urine test, 甚至阴道检查
[18:51] Tan Jessie: i do remember mei suffer alot of other stuff too...like sudden scream at home but ok at yr mom's house
[18:51] eugenice: all medical checkings shows mei is fine, no injuries, no infections
[18:51] Tan Jessie: yes all that i know...i just curious is fang who disturb mei or other thing?
[18:51] eugenice: yes, all these we only found out later, by sifu
[18:52] eugenice: yes
[18:52] Tan Jessie: sifu said fang disturb mei?
[18:52] eugenice: sifu saw him, and communicate with him
[18:52] eugenice: fang felt been neglected when he compared to De
[18:52] eugenice: we did not do anything aft Fang 2005Jan
[18:52] Tan Jessie: so he kacau mei to bring attention?
[18:53] eugenice: but with De in 2007Apr, we do so many prayings for De
[18:53] eugenice: u know, aft the clear curse praying 驱咒
[18:54] eugenice: i asked sifu, how is my son? shall i pray to him (De)?
[18:54] eugenice: sifu "looked" & said "no need, your son just reincarnated 投胎"
[18:55] eugenice: he said this is blessing to be able to 投胎 within 49 days
[18:55] eugenice: but poor Fang, we did not do anything for him, so he is still remain
[18:55] eugenice: Fang not able to get chances to 投胎
[18:55] eugenice: then he shows his jealous to us, yes, to bring our attention
[18:56] eugenice: u know, at first pa not happy, said how could he made his own sis suffering
[18:56] Tan Jessie: so no need hok sai de liao then?
[18:56] eugenice: then mei suffer lagi teruk
[18:56] eugenice: aft the help of sifu, we apologised to fang
[18:56] Tan Jessie: so all the suffering because of fang?
[18:57] eugenice: for not doing any praying to him since 2005
[18:57] Tan Jessie: mei scream and canot stay yr hse...ma goto go do some of her praying ...remember?
[18:57] Tan Jessie: that also fang try to bring attention?
[18:58] eugenice: sifu said fang is fine since 2005, until he compared himself with De who able to 投胎 in 2007, then he not happy
[18:58] eugenice: but all is over now, fang is very good to us
[18:58] Tan Jessie: so the previous is other thing?
[18:58] eugenice: and look after us
[18:58] Tan Jessie: can he tau tai?
[18:58] eugenice: no, nowi think back, and check from the photos, yes, that was 2005
[18:59] Tan Jessie: ???
[18:59] eugenice: same reason, that was fang
[18:59] Tan Jessie: what?
[18:59] Tan Jessie: hmm..that make more logic rite
[18:59] Tan Jessie: ok...true also fang goto do some way to transfer msg....no choice goto get help from his sis lor
[19:00] eugenice: so, we only pray Fang, De has already 投胎, the soul has gone to other family, no need to pray anymore
[19:00] eugenice: Fang chose to be stay with us
[19:00] eugenice: yes
[19:00] Tan Jessie: remember i heard fr u that sifu said mei private part pain because of the 'floor god' that playing with her....
[19:01] Tan Jessie: i wasnt happy when i heard that cos 'floor god' shd take care of us not disturb us ma
[19:01] Tan Jessie: now make more sence
[19:01] eugenice: sifu said some souls prefer to be stay with 人间, cos they love their family too much
[19:01] Tan Jessie: then M got so many...do they need to pray ah? so many years liao wor
[19:02] eugenice: Fang missed the opportunities of 投胎 cos we did not pray for him
[19:02] eugenice: oh yes, 地主公
[19:02] Tan Jessie: cannnot have again or he choose not to?
[19:02] eugenice: i also asked sifu, why 1st time i brought mei there, u said 地主公和她开玩笑
[19:03] Tan Jessie: yup the kai wan siao....wah lau...how can
[19:03] eugenice: sifu said it was true, at that time he only saw 地主公
[19:03] Tan Jessie: very big wan siao leh....
[19:03] Tan Jessie: i very upset hear that leh
[19:03] eugenice: sifu later expalined to me that
[19:03] Tan Jessie: where can do such thing as wan siao
[19:03] eugenice: one of main responsiblties of 地主公 is to protect the young/ unborn kids
[19:04] eugenice: 婴灵
[19:04] eugenice: those aborted, those died early
[19:04] eugenice: with no parents
[19:04] eugenice: my poor Fang was under 地主公 from 2005-2007 cos we did not take care of him at that time
[19:06] eugenice: that time when i told them that sifu said 地主公开玩笑, most ppl immediately got the idea that dont wee wee at public
[19:06] eugenice: but actually mei not
[19:07] eugenice: i need to leave now, office gonna to close
[19:07] eugenice: talk again if u believe/ accept/ interested
[19:07] Tan Jessie: ok bye
只是，我无法开口告诉她，我的圣德是投胎成了她的圣田........
我太担心引起她的误会.....
我太后知后觉，我的担心是多余的。她不但知道圣德投胎转世的来龙去脉，甚至当年她是有策略地刻意来向我借胎的！
平日鲜少从吉隆坡返槟，却在我痛失圣德的49天内，四度赶来槟城见我，在我家中待留，更破天荒给了我RM300的大红包，我还一直感恩她的善良~~
[18:26] Tan Jessie: sao sao
[18:26] Tan Jessie: so lin TC and hami will b in topaz sat ?
[18:26] Tan Jessie: sunday only go perak?
[18:27] eugenice: no
[18:27] eugenice: they will come on 24Dec morning, stay a noght at topaz, then 25 go to ipoh
[18:27] eugenice: eh
[18:27] eugenice: yup
[18:27] eugenice: they probably will come back on Sat, then Sun fly back
[18:28] eugenice: probably
[18:28] Tan Jessie: so still got chance to meet sat...hmmm....now where to stay ah? lin room like store leh
[18:29] eugenice: not to hide from u, we are going to pray Fang on 27Dec 初一
[18:29] eugenice: as what sifu asked us to do so
[18:29] eugenice: every 初一十五
[18:29] Tan Jessie: dun say that....i got nothing about fang just tat my dad say tian still small nia
[18:29] eugenice: pa ma sure will join too, with food & 金银纸
[18:30] eugenice: 27Dec is 十二月初一
[18:30] Tan Jessie: now do u have problem if i follow what my dad say?
[18:30] Tan Jessie: like not comfortable?
[18:30] eugenice: i m fine...it depends on u
[18:30] eugenice: oh no..dont get me wrong
[18:31] eugenice: i just worried u may uncomfortable when we all pray Fang while u are at Pg
[18:31] Tan Jessie: so long u dun get angry or misunderstand me.....M and pa i dun care
[18:31] Tan Jessie: pray where?
[18:31] eugenice: u believe but dun let tian involved? or u totally not believe?
[18:32] Tan Jessie: i believe but i also listen to my dad that since tian too small must not let him involved and more over, its not like brother or sister...its relative
[18:32] Tan Jessie: tian not even 1 year
[18:33] Tan Jessie: i realy duno how to handle...sao sao..i really understand yr situation, and support u....and also sorry about what had happen
[18:33] Tan Jessie: pray in topaz or yr place?
[18:33] eugenice: fang is at my place
[18:34] eugenice: sifu talked to him at my hse
[18:34] Tan Jessie: pa ma will pray yr place or topaz?
[18:34] eugenice: M did ask sifu whether can "hok sai" at topaz too? but sifu said only one 香炉 for one
[18:35] eugenice: and Fang chose to be at my own hse
[18:35] eugenice: pa ma come
[18:35] Tan Jessie: well i think i agree with sifu leh...where got hok sai so many place? shd be own house rite?
[18:35] Tan Jessie: of cos fang will chose with u ma...
[18:36] eugenice: that was one praying, pa leg too pain, cant walk, so only ma came alone
[18:36] Tan Jessie: honestly do u feel offended when my dad say better not let tian involve?
[18:36] eugenice: she prayed to fang asking fang to help gong gong, so that gong gong can come again next 15 days later
[18:37] eugenice: true enough, pa can walk & even climbed up the staircases to come next praying
[18:37] Tan Jessie: my dad say tian not full 1 year....after 1 year can pray like cheng beng
[18:37] eugenice: i wont. becos this is really personal belief
[18:37] eugenice: i just want to listen the reasons
[18:38] eugenice: actually the stories are very long
[18:38] Tan Jessie: r u ok with the reasons?
[18:38] Tan Jessie: do i smell things like if no pray no good?
[18:38] eugenice: which reason?
[18:38] Tan Jessie: or u also believe that tian sick must pray to fang?
[18:38] Tan Jessie: reason - tian not full 1 year
[18:39] eugenice: this is just a small matter...i dont take it to heart
[18:39] eugenice: afterall, i cant ask others to pray to my son, right?
[18:39] eugenice: that night at steamboat, i duno what ma told KT (i was with u at the car)
[18:40] Tan Jessie: dun say that....my dad not say dun pray to yr son...just that wait till he is 1 year and can pray during cheng beng if come back
[18:40] Tan Jessie: ma said tian sick bcos no pray to fang
[18:40] eugenice: when i went back to the table, M said ask u to bring tian to pray
[18:40] Tan Jessie: so must go pray
[18:40] eugenice: oh no...i don agree that
[18:40] eugenice: why no pray got sick?
[18:40] Tan Jessie: phew....luckily u not like ma type
[18:40] eugenice: fang is bringing good to us
[18:41] Tan Jessie: thats what i believe too....
[18:41] eugenice: i m not buta buta percaya lah
[18:41] Tan Jessie: where can sikit sikit blame gang
[18:41] Tan Jessie: i mean fang
[18:41] Tan Jessie: ok, at least we same chanel
[18:41] eugenice: ok, that tnight
[18:41] eugenice: then KT asked me to persuade u to bring tian to my hse
[18:42] Tan Jessie: so long u dun feel offended follow what my dad say....if we come back cheng beng next year....of cos can pray
[18:42] eugenice: i said oh no...he is your son, i cannot force others to pray my son
[18:42] eugenice: if u want to come to pray, i m fine & happy
[18:42] eugenice: if u are not praying, i m also fine
[18:42] Tan Jessie: i not happy hear ma said or blame tian sick must pray fang
[18:42] eugenice: KT said he cant talk this to u, then i looked at your mum, asked if your mum can help him
[18:43] Tan Jessie: i totally disagree.
[18:43] eugenice: he said, no, your mum is amen
[18:43] eugenice: u must get this clear:
[18:43] eugenice: tian sick not bcos of fang, fang will not make tian sick
[18:43] Tan Jessie: tat nite i dun 1 to go to yr hse because first...too late and tian oredy very uncomfortable tats y we in car
[18:44] Tan Jessie: secondly i oredy very upset and no patient y they still continue eat so long
[18:44] Tan Jessie: somemore not goin back yet and have to go to yr house pray to fang ....blame the sick on him...
[18:44] Tan Jessie: i lagi hot
[18:44] Tan Jessie: so i say NO
[18:45] Tan Jessie: somemore tian not just suddenly sick...he has been sick and recovered but then we all also sick and doc also believe because the passing in the car during travelling.
[18:45] Tan Jessie: coming back penang tian again cough, again because my mom sick and cough and still take care of him.
[18:45] Tan Jessie: so doc said all marry go round
[18:46] Tan Jessie: after visit doc, my mom ok, we all ok, tian also recovering
[18:46] Tan Jessie: i also believe that fang will not make tian sick or anyone sick....fang will bring happiness to the family
[18:46] Tan Jessie: take care mei mei too
[18:47] Tan Jessie: i also remember what u say, all the things happen + mei sick because belum pray to fang rite??
[18:48] eugenice: bcos that time we all ignored abt fang
[18:49] eugenice: everyone pray to De only
[18:49] eugenice: u remembered last year Mei's night suffering?
[18:49] eugenice: that was once when u came back with pregnant, mei also suffer?
[18:50] Tan Jessie: yup so fang take care mei after praying to him?
[18:51] Tan Jessie: but one thing is fang kacau mei or other thing kacau mei?
[18:51] eugenice: we sent Mei to visit & check at all clinics, did the ultrasound on her, urine test, 甚至阴道检查
[18:51] Tan Jessie: i do remember mei suffer alot of other stuff too...like sudden scream at home but ok at yr mom's house
[18:51] eugenice: all medical checkings shows mei is fine, no injuries, no infections
[18:51] Tan Jessie: yes all that i know...i just curious is fang who disturb mei or other thing?
[18:51] eugenice: yes, all these we only found out later, by sifu
[18:52] eugenice: yes
[18:52] Tan Jessie: sifu said fang disturb mei?
[18:52] eugenice: sifu saw him, and communicate with him
[18:52] eugenice: fang felt been neglected when he compared to De
[18:52] eugenice: we did not do anything aft Fang 2005Jan
[18:52] Tan Jessie: so he kacau mei to bring attention?
[18:53] eugenice: but with De in 2007Apr, we do so many prayings for De
[18:53] eugenice: u know, aft the clear curse praying 驱咒
[18:54] eugenice: i asked sifu, how is my son? shall i pray to him (De)?
[18:54] eugenice: sifu "looked" & said "no need, your son just reincarnated 投胎"
[18:55] eugenice: he said this is blessing to be able to 投胎 within 49 days
[18:55] eugenice: but poor Fang, we did not do anything for him, so he is still remain
[18:55] eugenice: Fang not able to get chances to 投胎
[18:55] eugenice: then he shows his jealous to us, yes, to bring our attention
[18:56] eugenice: u know, at first pa not happy, said how could he made his own sis suffering
[18:56] Tan Jessie: so no need hok sai de liao then?
[18:56] eugenice: then mei suffer lagi teruk
[18:56] eugenice: aft the help of sifu, we apologised to fang
[18:56] Tan Jessie: so all the suffering because of fang?
[18:57] eugenice: for not doing any praying to him since 2005
[18:57] Tan Jessie: mei scream and canot stay yr hse...ma goto go do some of her praying ...remember?
[18:57] Tan Jessie: that also fang try to bring attention?
[18:58] eugenice: sifu said fang is fine since 2005, until he compared himself with De who able to 投胎 in 2007, then he not happy
[18:58] eugenice: but all is over now, fang is very good to us
[18:58] Tan Jessie: so the previous is other thing?
[18:58] eugenice: and look after us
[18:58] Tan Jessie: can he tau tai?
[18:58] eugenice: no, nowi think back, and check from the photos, yes, that was 2005
[18:59] Tan Jessie: ???
[18:59] eugenice: same reason, that was fang
[18:59] Tan Jessie: what?
[18:59] Tan Jessie: hmm..that make more logic rite
[18:59] Tan Jessie: ok...true also fang goto do some way to transfer msg....no choice goto get help from his sis lor
[19:00] eugenice: so, we only pray Fang, De has already 投胎, the soul has gone to other family, no need to pray anymore
[19:00] eugenice: Fang chose to be stay with us
[19:00] eugenice: yes
[19:00] Tan Jessie: remember i heard fr u that sifu said mei private part pain because of the 'floor god' that playing with her....
[19:01] Tan Jessie: i wasnt happy when i heard that cos 'floor god' shd take care of us not disturb us ma
[19:01] Tan Jessie: now make more sence
[19:01] eugenice: sifu said some souls prefer to be stay with 人间, cos they love their family too much
[19:01] Tan Jessie: then M got so many...do they need to pray ah? so many years liao wor
[19:02] eugenice: Fang missed the opportunities of 投胎 cos we did not pray for him
[19:02] eugenice: oh yes, 地主公
[19:02] Tan Jessie: cannnot have again or he choose not to?
[19:02] eugenice: i also asked sifu, why 1st time i brought mei there, u said 地主公和她开玩笑
[19:03] Tan Jessie: yup the kai wan siao....wah lau...how can
[19:03] eugenice: sifu said it was true, at that time he only saw 地主公
[19:03] Tan Jessie: very big wan siao leh....
[19:03] Tan Jessie: i very upset hear that leh
[19:03] eugenice: sifu later expalined to me that
[19:03] Tan Jessie: where can do such thing as wan siao
[19:03] eugenice: one of main responsiblties of 地主公 is to protect the young/ unborn kids
[19:04] eugenice: 婴灵
[19:04] eugenice: those aborted, those died early
[19:04] eugenice: with no parents
[19:04] eugenice: my poor Fang was under 地主公 from 2005-2007 cos we did not take care of him at that time
[19:06] eugenice: that time when i told them that sifu said 地主公开玩笑, most ppl immediately got the idea that dont wee wee at public
[19:06] eugenice: but actually mei not
[19:07] eugenice: i need to leave now, office gonna to close
[19:07] eugenice: talk again if u believe/ accept/ interested
[19:07] Tan Jessie: ok bye
