2008-12-27 十二月初一祭圣方

在怡东用完晚餐后，我们载公婆回家祭拜圣方，有孕近12周的Lin姑姑一家及叔叔叔母小田都直接回Topaz.


公婆、外婆、父母及枚祭拜圣方










圣枚姐姐弹唱她在“快乐小天使合唱团”所学习的新歌给圣方听。

2008-12-22 JC accepted the 投胎事实 generally

听从专科医生的意见，刚好遇上初一祭拜圣方的日子，我就慢慢引导小婶J，让她知道圣方、圣德的来龙去脉及现况。小婶J 有充足的社会经验及人生阅历，她完全相信及接受婴灵及投胎转世的事实。她也希望圣方可以早日投胎。
只是，我无法开口告诉她，我的圣德是投胎成了她的圣田........
我太担心引起她的误会.....

我太后知后觉，我的担心是多余的。她不但知道圣德投胎转世的来龙去脉，甚至当年她是有策略地刻意来向我借胎的！
平日鲜少从吉隆坡返槟，却在我痛失圣德的49天内，四度赶来槟城见我，在我家中待留，更破天荒给了我RM300的大红包，我还一直感恩她的善良~~




[18:26] Tan Jessie: sao sao
[18:26] Tan Jessie: so lin TC and hami will b in topaz sat ?
[18:26] Tan Jessie: sunday only go perak?
[18:27] eugenice: no
[18:27] eugenice: they will come on 24Dec morning, stay a noght at topaz, then 25 go to ipoh
[18:27] eugenice: eh
[18:27] eugenice: yup
[18:27] eugenice: they probably will come back on Sat, then Sun fly back
[18:28] eugenice: probably
[18:28] Tan Jessie: so still got chance to meet sat...hmmm....now where to stay ah? lin room like store leh
[18:29] eugenice: not to hide from u, we are going to pray Fang on 27Dec 初一
[18:29] eugenice: as what sifu asked us to do so
[18:29] eugenice: every 初一十五
[18:29] Tan Jessie: dun say that....i got nothing about fang just tat my dad say tian still small nia
[18:29] eugenice: pa ma sure will join too, with food & 金银纸
[18:30] eugenice: 27Dec is 十二月初一
[18:30] Tan Jessie: now do u have problem if i follow what my dad say?
[18:30] Tan Jessie: like not comfortable?
[18:30] eugenice: i m fine...it depends on u
[18:30] eugenice: oh no..dont get me wrong
[18:31] eugenice: i just worried u may uncomfortable when we all pray Fang while u are at Pg
[18:31] Tan Jessie: so long u dun get angry or misunderstand me.....M and pa i dun care
[18:31] Tan Jessie: pray where?
[18:31] eugenice: u believe but dun let tian involved? or u totally not believe?
[18:32] Tan Jessie: i believe but i also listen to my dad that since tian too small must not let him involved and more over, its not like brother or sister...its relative
[18:32] Tan Jessie: tian not even 1 year
[18:33] Tan Jessie: i realy duno how to handle...sao sao..i really understand yr situation, and support u....and also sorry about what had happen
[18:33] Tan Jessie: pray in topaz or yr place?
[18:33] eugenice: fang is at my place
[18:34] eugenice: sifu talked to him at my hse
[18:34] Tan Jessie: pa ma will pray yr place or topaz?
[18:34] eugenice: M did ask sifu whether can "hok sai" at topaz too? but sifu said only one 香炉 for one
[18:35] eugenice: and Fang chose to be at my own hse
[18:35] eugenice: pa ma come
[18:35] Tan Jessie: well i think i agree with sifu leh...where got hok sai so many place? shd be own house rite?
[18:35] Tan Jessie: of cos fang will chose with u ma...
[18:36] eugenice: that was one praying, pa leg too pain, cant walk, so only ma came alone
[18:36] Tan Jessie: honestly do u feel offended when my dad say better not let tian involve?
[18:36] eugenice: she prayed to fang asking fang to help gong gong, so that gong gong can come again next 15 days later
[18:37] eugenice: true enough, pa can walk & even climbed up the staircases to come next praying
[18:37] Tan Jessie: my dad say tian not full 1 year....after 1 year can pray like cheng beng
[18:37] eugenice: i wont. becos this is really personal belief
[18:37] eugenice: i just want to listen the reasons
[18:38] eugenice: actually the stories are very long
[18:38] Tan Jessie: r u ok with the reasons?
[18:38] Tan Jessie: do i smell things like if no pray no good?
[18:38] eugenice: which reason?
[18:38] Tan Jessie: or u also believe that tian sick must pray to fang?
[18:38] Tan Jessie: reason - tian not full 1 year
[18:39] eugenice: this is just a small matter...i dont take it to heart
[18:39] eugenice: afterall, i cant ask others to pray to my son, right?
[18:39] eugenice: that night at steamboat, i duno what ma told KT (i was with u at the car)
[18:40] Tan Jessie: dun say that....my dad not say dun pray to yr son...just that wait till he is 1 year and can pray during cheng beng if come back
[18:40] Tan Jessie: ma said tian sick bcos no pray to fang
[18:40] eugenice: when i went back to the table, M said ask u to bring tian to pray
[18:40] Tan Jessie: so must go pray
[18:40] eugenice: oh no...i don agree that
[18:40] eugenice: why no pray got sick?
[18:40] Tan Jessie: phew....luckily u not like ma type
[18:40] eugenice: fang is bringing good to us
[18:41] Tan Jessie: thats what i believe too....
[18:41] eugenice: i m not buta buta percaya lah
[18:41] Tan Jessie: where can sikit sikit blame gang
[18:41] Tan Jessie: i mean fang
[18:41] Tan Jessie: ok, at least we same chanel
[18:41] eugenice: ok, that tnight
[18:41] eugenice: then KT asked me to persuade u to bring tian to my hse
[18:42] Tan Jessie: so long u dun feel offended follow what my dad say....if we come back cheng beng next year....of cos can pray
[18:42] eugenice: i said oh no...he is your son, i cannot force others to pray my son
[18:42] eugenice: if u want to come to pray, i m fine & happy
[18:42] eugenice: if u are not praying, i m also fine
[18:42] Tan Jessie: i not happy hear ma said or blame tian sick must pray fang
[18:42] eugenice: KT said he cant talk this to u, then i looked at your mum, asked if your mum can help him
[18:43] Tan Jessie: i totally disagree.
[18:43] eugenice: he said, no, your mum is amen
[18:43] eugenice: u must get this clear:
[18:43] eugenice: tian sick not bcos of fang, fang will not make tian sick
[18:43] Tan Jessie: tat nite i dun 1 to go to yr hse because first...too late and tian oredy very uncomfortable tats y we in car
[18:44] Tan Jessie: secondly i oredy very upset and no patient y they still continue eat so long
[18:44] Tan Jessie: somemore not goin back yet and have to go to yr house pray to fang ....blame the sick on him...
[18:44] Tan Jessie: i lagi hot
[18:44] Tan Jessie: so i say NO
[18:45] Tan Jessie: somemore tian not just suddenly sick...he has been sick and recovered but then we all also sick and doc also believe because the passing in the car during travelling.
[18:45] Tan Jessie: coming back penang tian again cough, again because my mom sick and cough and still take care of him.
[18:45] Tan Jessie: so doc said all marry go round
[18:46] Tan Jessie: after visit doc, my mom ok, we all ok, tian also recovering
[18:46] Tan Jessie: i also believe that fang will not make tian sick or anyone sick....fang will bring happiness to the family
[18:46] Tan Jessie: take care mei mei too
[18:47] Tan Jessie: i also remember what u say, all the things happen + mei sick because belum pray to fang rite??
[18:48] eugenice: bcos that time we all ignored abt fang
[18:49] eugenice: everyone pray to De only
[18:49] eugenice: u remembered last year Mei's night suffering?
[18:49] eugenice: that was once when u came back with pregnant, mei also suffer?
[18:50] Tan Jessie: yup so fang take care mei after praying to him?
[18:51] Tan Jessie: but one thing is fang kacau mei or other thing kacau mei?
[18:51] eugenice: we sent Mei to visit & check at all clinics, did the ultrasound on her, urine test, 甚至阴道检查
[18:51] Tan Jessie: i do remember mei suffer alot of other stuff too...like sudden scream at home but ok at yr mom's house
[18:51] eugenice: all medical checkings shows mei is fine, no injuries, no infections
[18:51] Tan Jessie: yes all that i know...i just curious is fang who disturb mei or other thing?
[18:51] eugenice: yes, all these we only found out later, by sifu
[18:52] eugenice: yes
[18:52] Tan Jessie: sifu said fang disturb mei?
[18:52] eugenice: sifu saw him, and communicate with him
[18:52] eugenice: fang felt been neglected when he compared to De
[18:52] eugenice: we did not do anything aft Fang 2005Jan
[18:52] Tan Jessie: so he kacau mei to bring attention?
[18:53] eugenice: but with De in 2007Apr, we do so many prayings for De
[18:53] eugenice: u know, aft the clear curse praying 驱咒
[18:54] eugenice: i asked sifu, how is my son? shall i pray to him (De)?
[18:54] eugenice: sifu "looked" & said "no need, your son just reincarnated 投胎"
[18:55] eugenice: he said this is blessing to be able to 投胎 within 49 days
[18:55] eugenice: but poor Fang, we did not do anything for him, so he is still remain
[18:55] eugenice: Fang not able to get chances to 投胎
[18:55] eugenice: then he shows his jealous to us, yes, to bring our attention
[18:56] eugenice: u know, at first pa not happy, said how could he made his own sis suffering
[18:56] Tan Jessie: so no need hok sai de liao then?
[18:56] eugenice: then mei suffer lagi teruk
[18:56] eugenice: aft the help of sifu, we apologised to fang
[18:56] Tan Jessie: so all the suffering because of fang?
[18:57] eugenice: for not doing any praying to him since 2005
[18:57] Tan Jessie: mei scream and canot stay yr hse...ma goto go do some of her praying ...remember?
[18:57] Tan Jessie: that also fang try to bring attention?
[18:58] eugenice: sifu said fang is fine since 2005, until he compared himself with De who able to 投胎 in 2007, then he not happy
[18:58] eugenice: but all is over now, fang is very good to us
[18:58] Tan Jessie: so the previous is other thing?
[18:58] eugenice: and look after us
[18:58] Tan Jessie: can he tau tai?
[18:58] eugenice: no, nowi think back, and check from the photos, yes, that was 2005
[18:59] Tan Jessie: ???
[18:59] eugenice: same reason, that was fang
[18:59] Tan Jessie: what?
[18:59] Tan Jessie: hmm..that make more logic rite
[18:59] Tan Jessie: ok...true also fang goto do some way to transfer msg....no choice goto get help from his sis lor
[19:00] eugenice: so, we only pray Fang, De has already 投胎, the soul has gone to other family, no need to pray anymore
[19:00] eugenice: Fang chose to be stay with us
[19:00] eugenice: yes
[19:00] Tan Jessie: remember i heard fr u that sifu said mei private part pain because of the 'floor god' that playing with her....
[19:01] Tan Jessie: i wasnt happy when i heard that cos 'floor god' shd take care of us not disturb us ma
[19:01] Tan Jessie: now make more sence
[19:01] eugenice: sifu said some souls prefer to be stay with 人间, cos they love their family too much
[19:01] Tan Jessie: then M got so many...do they need to pray ah? so many years liao wor
[19:02] eugenice: Fang missed the opportunities of 投胎 cos we did not pray for him
[19:02] eugenice: oh yes, 地主公
[19:02] Tan Jessie: cannnot have again or he choose not to?
[19:02] eugenice: i also asked sifu, why 1st time i brought mei there, u said 地主公和她开玩笑
[19:03] Tan Jessie: yup the kai wan siao....wah lau...how can
[19:03] eugenice: sifu said it was true, at that time he only saw 地主公
[19:03] Tan Jessie: very big wan siao leh....
[19:03] Tan Jessie: i very upset hear that leh
[19:03] eugenice: sifu later expalined to me that
[19:03] Tan Jessie: where can do such thing as wan siao
[19:03] eugenice: one of main responsiblties of 地主公 is to protect the young/ unborn kids
[19:04] eugenice: 婴灵
[19:04] eugenice: those aborted, those died early
[19:04] eugenice: with no parents
[19:04] eugenice: my poor Fang was under 地主公 from 2005-2007 cos we did not take care of him at that time
[19:06] eugenice: that time when i told them that sifu said 地主公开玩笑, most ppl immediately got the idea that dont wee wee at public
[19:06] eugenice: but actually mei not
[19:07] eugenice: i need to leave now, office gonna to close
[19:07] eugenice: talk again if u believe/ accept/ interested
[19:07] Tan Jessie: ok bye

时候到了，是不是不该再隐瞒？

圣田第一次返槟，和我们的车在南北大道一路并行。
由於他一离开家一小时即发烧，多天来没有好转，又泄又吐，家婆马上联想，要带他去往见师父。

临走前一晚，家婆更要小叔夫妻带着圣田到我家来祭拜圣方，我们夫妻无所谓，可是就引发了小婶J的好奇。
她接连拨打我的电话、又发了多则短讯，追问我为何家婆M 说圣田必须祭拜圣方。

我很为难，如果我告诉她因为圣田是圣方的弟弟圣德的投胎之身，她会怎样想呢？她会承受这个事实吗？她千辛万苦才诞下圣田，肯定无法接受。

孟说，时候到了，不该再隐藏这些东西。应该让全家人知道整件事的来龙去脉。
是事实，一家人之间不应隐瞒。
他也劝我别想太多，尤其是太袒护别人，太顾及别人的感受，结果自己这么辛苦，受尽委曲还再继续帮人。




















小婶J 的SMS不断，我不敢回应，急忙向儿科专科医生好友婉玲求救！

[15:51] eugenice: help!
[15:51] eugenice: need your prof help as i never study abt the psycho of parents
[16:03] Wan Lin Tan: why why? what happened? I am not a psychologist too
[16:05] eugenice: that little Tian came back
[16:07] eugenice: last weekend, the little boy came to Pg for his 1st time, together with me from KL
[16:07] eugenice: but he fever aft 1hr of driving till today, vomit & lao sai
[16:08] eugenice: medicine taken, still same

[16:08] eugenice: then my kay po MIL suddenly came out with asking the little boy to my hse to pray to his "eldest bro" Shen Fang
[16:09] eugenice: so my SIL now very curious, sms & called me for times, asking me why
[16:09] eugenice: how shall i say? shall i tell her the "truth" of how his son was actually 投胎 from my son
[16:10] eugenice: my hb said tell them whole thing, but i hesitate
[16:11] eugenice: will my sis IL accept this? she suffered so much to deliver this boy, and she spend all her effort to look & love this Sheng Tian

[16:11] Wan Lin Tan: to save you from all the trouble, i think you should tell her
[16:11] eugenice: what? u also say like this?
[16:11] Wan Lin Tan: ya..... not your fault
[16:11] Wan Lin Tan: hm... if you ask me, i'll ask her to go and ask MIL
[16:11] eugenice: but i believe she sure will angry with me, not going to let us near to his son anymore
[16:12] Wan Lin Tan: why should she be angry with you?
[16:12] Wan Lin Tan: not your fault
[16:12] Wan Lin Tan: you did not make all this happen
[16:12] Wan Lin Tan: it started from your MIL

[16:14] eugenice: u know, i m very hard

[16:15] eugenice: i put the whole incident happened to 2 half, 1 half is abt how the MIL curse made me lost 2 sons, 2nd half is how Shen De "reincarnated" to become Shen Tian
[16:16] eugenice: i keep 1st half secret away from my MIL, only told her 2nd half
[16:16] eugenice: while i told my SIL 1st half only

[16:18] Wan Lin Tan: Do you think Shen Fang wants this to be revealed to your SIL (Tian's mum?)
[16:24] eugenice: i hv no idea
[16:24] eugenice: Shen Fang never "tell" me
[16:25] eugenice: what do u think?
[16:25] eugenice: i asked MIL, she did not reveal the whole thing, just asked them to pray
[16:25] eugenice: but sure SIL wants to know why marrr
[16:25] eugenice: if i were her, i also curious to know
[16:27] eugenice: but i don think Fang will do anything to tian
[16:44] Wan Lin Tan: hm..... put yourself in her position
[16:44] Wan Lin Tan: if you are asked to pray
[16:44] Wan Lin Tan: would you want to know why
[16:45] Wan Lin Tan: the more ppl try to 'hide' from you, the more curious you get
[16:45] eugenice: yes
[16:45] Wan Lin Tan: and you tend to think the 'bad' way
[16:45] Wan Lin Tan: right?
[16:45] eugenice: so, how?
[16:45] Wan Lin Tan: hm... just let her be prepared
[16:45] eugenice: how to be prepared?

[16:45] Wan Lin Tan: tell her that concerns some 'previous lives'
[16:45] Wan Lin Tan: and if she believes and is ready to accept the truth
[16:46] Wan Lin Tan: then tell her
[16:46] eugenice: yes, this one i told her already. i told her abt my previous life
[16:46] Wan Lin Tan: collect the facts
[16:46] Wan Lin Tan: before you go into the fact that her son is reincarnated from yours
[16:46] eugenice: and another true story of 投胎在自家 in the family


[16:46] Wan Lin Tan: tell her how she conceived and when
[16:46] Wan Lin Tan: the dates
[16:47] Wan Lin Tan: she's been trying to have a baby but not success
[16:47] Wan Lin Tan: why till you lost yours then only she got one
[16:47] Wan Lin Tan: and a boy
[16:47] Wan Lin Tan: and the timing is so perfect
[16:47] eugenice: 出於保护自己的心态，我想她会反弹
[16:47] Wan Lin Tan: too many coincidences


[16:48] Wan Lin Tan: but if you don't tell, sure she'll ask
[16:48] Wan Lin Tan: keep asking
[16:48] Wan Lin Tan: till she gets an answer
[16:48] Wan Lin Tan: unless you plan to hide from her
[16:48] Wan Lin Tan: and pray that she never knows
[16:48] eugenice: but sifu said no need to tell

[16:48] Wan Lin Tan: hm....
[16:48] eugenice: worried how's her reaction


[16:49] Wan Lin Tan: make sure your MIL doesn't tell too
[16:49] Wan Lin Tan: if you don't want to tell
[16:49] Wan Lin Tan: you could just 'make up ' something
[16:49] Wan Lin Tan: like how Shen Fang is a 'dear' to the family and how he stopped the sister's (Mei) sufferings
[16:49] Wan Lin Tan: this sure your SIL knows
[16:50] Wan Lin Tan: and hopefully Shen Fang can now help the cousin brother too
[16:50] Wan Lin Tan: if you do not want to tell her the whole story, then at least tell her something that she can believe
[16:50] Wan Lin Tan: believe and convinced that why Tian must pray to Fang
[16:53] eugenice: yes, she knows all abt Mei sufferings & Fang's help
[16:53] eugenice: but both hb & wife cannot relate Fang to their son Tian
[16:53] eugenice: "why asking Tian to pray to Fang?'

[17:08] Wan Lin Tan: tell her, Fang, being a brother to Tian, will protect Tian, just like how Fang protect Mei, if they believe, they pray, if they don't , leave it. And i think they should not ask more
[17:09] eugenice: they are 新新人类 , always ask till i cannot answer
[17:10] eugenice: last yr when she got to know i pregnant, she also asked me directly: why, how? accident? u planned?
[17:10] eugenice: she so curious cos she tried hard but no news
[17:11] eugenice: aiyo...suddenly i laugh
[17:12] eugenice: u as a close friend of mine, never meet anyone of my family members, but u know everything the most detailed
[17:12] eugenice: hope u don get bored when i share with u
[17:21] Wan Lin Tan: oh please... I am honoured that you trust me and you share with me
[17:21] Wan Lin Tan: don't mention the word 'bored'
[17:22] Wan Lin Tan: it's a pity that i can't help much
[17:23] eugenice: oh no..u helped me a lot
[17:42] Wan Lin Tan: i wish i can.....
[17:42] Wan Lin Tan: i am good as a listener only
[17:44] eugenice: oh..u did comfort me a lot


我想，能够拖得一时，就拖吧！

小田竟然与我两年来梦中的圣德长得一样

小田正月出世至今都没有回过槟城，近一年了我们还不曾见面。

趁着到吉隆坡大姨新家度假，我们和小田见面了。

初次见面，有着一种特别的熟悉...........

最让我直呼不可思议的是, 小田竟然与我两年来梦中的圣德长得一样, 就像这个部落格上端的小天使一般。
还有，连小婶和她的母亲，小田的外婆都不断说小田长得和枚姐姐很相似，动作神情都像，头部形状更像！

Again, It is scarily accurate!!!

初见圣田

小田自出生到十二月近一年了都不曾回来槟城，这一次，我们趁着到金马仑游玩，下山后直驶吉隆坡过两晚。

第一次即将与圣田见面，我的心跳似乎加速了，圣枚也一样兴奋不已。
这种感觉，并不像我们第一次要见HAMI时。
因为大家都心知肚明，圣田是借胎自我的儿子圣德，我一直压抑着即将扑跳出来的心，表现得很淡定。
 
我驾着车，载着圣枚, 一路竟然转错弯，拐错路口，终於见到了。

甫踏进门，小田在睡觉，我不敢靠近。
小婶拿了圣枚小时候的照片，告诉我说她与她母亲都觉得圣田与圣枚小时候长得一模一样。我听后微笑不敢多言。

最让我直呼不可思议的是, 小田竟然与我两年来梦中的圣德长得一样, 就像这个部落格上端的小天使一般。后来，小田醒了，他看到我俩母女，不但丝毫没有生疏感，反而主动与我们“嘿” 呢！
果然，俩姐弟首度见面已玩得十分熟悉，乐在一团。
他的神情、他的小动作、他的头型、他的流汗......都与圣枚姐姐完全相像。
这些不是我说的，是小婶及她妈说的。这些真是神奇的极度相似啊！
It is scarily accurate!!!!

看着圣田快乐地成长，我很欣慰，心更安了。
小婶及父母都留我们多待下来用完晚餐再走，圣枚就有多一点时间和圣田玩了。
这一年来，她是多么的想见圣田，也常把她的东西留着改天要交给圣田，真是一位好姐姐。

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公公虔诚向圣方祈拜

2008-11-12 十月十五祭圣方

枚把她最喜欢的“老夫子”及corn flakes 祭拜圣方。

2008-11-09 妈咪与圣方

Favorite custard cakes

2008-10-29 十月初一祭圣方

九层糕、软糖、足球衣裤、水果等

2008-10-13 農历九月十五祭圣方/ 公公脚痛

公公脚痛不能来，阿婆求圣方保佑。

现代聊斋：姐弟情深

圣枚每天早晚或在家时，都会自动与圣方弟弟谈话、玩耍。
她也把生日蛋糕上的一对小孩，送给弟弟玩。
外婆给她的小拖鞋锁匙圈，她也马上转手给弟弟。






















圣枚教圣方弟弟使用相机。




















师父说，因为是姐弟亲情，枚是可以看见圣方的。这是好事，俩姐弟关系亲密，互相关爱，彼此照顾，平安顺利。

每天早上出门，枚总会向弟弟道别。
妈咪问枚：你跟圣方弟弟讲什么？
枚： 我跟他说我要去学校上课了。
妈咪：他有一起去吗？
枚：有呀！
妈咪：那他在学校是和你一起读书写字吗？
枚：没有啦。他在食堂等。有时候在课室里面，有时候留在家里没有去。

此外，师父也亲眼见过圣方，身高及腰，长得很好看。果然是他年应3岁之龄。

2008-09-29 Praying Shen Fang

农历九月初一

A set of clothes, Greenbean soup & Tambun Pneah by AhMa.

2008-09-14 Lantern Night with Shen Fang

慈济的Auntie Grace 师姐每年都会送圣枚一个电子灯笼迎中秋。
今年，圣枚就马上把她的新灯笼与圣方弟弟分享，她将灯笼放在香炉旁，播放音乐，与圣方同庆中秋。
农历八月十五这一晚，恰巧第二天是爸爸的生日，公婆也煮了一些食物来共享。

除了月饼、面包、牛奶，爸爸妈妈也买了一套牛仔长裤及衣物让圣方。圣枚也拿她的ABC 小书给弟弟。

2008-09-09 圣方圣德被确认在黎家的族谱里

顺从圣方的意愿, 家翁把圣方和圣德的名字都放进黎家的族谱里, 确认了他们的存在和地位。
我也代家翁发了一封电邮给海南岛老家, ；以进行家谱工作。


“海燕,
爸说他已和黎明叔叔说好了，现叫我把附上的族谱寄上，烦你打印出来交给他。
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过去一年来，家里发生了许多事情，不可思议，尤其是近数个月来的灵异显见事件，爸都与黎明叔叔说了些大概。
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向来相信科学、相信证据的我们，也因为亲身体验，以及数位医生的见证说明，而完全信服及接受了。

幼君”

2008-09-01 如梦初醒：接引我的长儿圣方

圣枚姐蛆的夜间折磨一天比一天严重，日渐消瘦无神，寻医无救，我们转而求救於师父。

那一夜，许延仁师父与助手们群围在齐天宫颂经引见，即见到了一个未完全成型的胎儿现身，手中还持着一根约10寸长的东西，附在圣枚姐姐的身上。
经过神灵的沟通，才知道他是我在2005年子宫外孕失掉的11周胎儿，我的长男黎圣方。

这些年来，我们都忽略了圣方，没有祭拜、没有超渡，让他四处漂泊，幸好有地主公来看顾。
难怪2005年我失去圣方后不久，曾有一段时间，枚姐姐都在半夜起身哭闹不休，后来经齐天宫许延仁师父解决。

而去年圣德的事件，经佛教人士的指导，我们都有作了许多的祈福给圣德，包括我产下圣德的前后数小时都不断为他祈福、求忏悔、出院过后也进行了祭拜、超渡、布施、放生等，使圣德有机会在49天内投胎回来黎家。


尤其是小婶怀有圣田及圣田出生之后，成为众人疼爱的焦点人物，圣枚姐姐夜间受苦受折磨的情况就更加严重了。
难怪从小婶J 怀孕开始，地主公就和圣枚姐姐开了这样的“玩笑”，试图引起家人的注意。
师父说，婴灵都选择最亲密的家人来表达，他本身并不知道这样会造成姐姐的痛楚。


可怜的圣方，身为兄长，竟被大家所遗忘及忽略。
他的心情是可以理解的。
师父与圣方沟通，并答应了他的要求，即是要求家中长辈们承认他的长男孙地位，家中小辈祭拜侍奉他为哥哥。


2009-09-01

我们一家三代，就在师父所教导的农历八月初一(2009-09-01)，在门口设炉祭拜圣方。
长辈们买了衣裤玩具，爸爸孟和公公都亲手在祭品上写着[长男黎圣方]及[长孙男黎圣方]，水果、饼干、糖果、奶等。

火焰升得很高，也一直摇动，公公婆婆说：这表示圣方很高兴。
































经过第一轮的祭拜圣方，圣枚的夜间折磨果然马上消失，夜夜安眠。



把圣方接回家

可是，约一星期之后，圣枚再度面对夜间折磨之痛苦，我们再向师父求救。
师父与圣方的灵沟通之后，原来是因为我们把香炉安顿在门外，圣方希望可以进到家里。

师父教导我们父母如何直接与圣方沟通，询问圣方的意思。
我们夫妻跟着师父的指导，一一和圣方谈，果然圣方一口就表示要进屋子内。
取得圣方的同意之后，爸爸慎重地把圣方的香炉小心翼翼地捧到手中，叫着圣方的名，一步一步走入屋内。
跟随在旁的妈咪，马上全身一阵寒意，明显感受到圣方的存在与同步。

第二轮的祭拜，我们请了圣方住进屋内，圣枚姐姐的夜间折磨果然又马上消失，夜夜安眠。


圣方选择他喜欢的客厅福位

可是，约一星期之后，圣枚再度面对夜间折磨之痛苦，我们再向师父求救。
师父见情况不简单，就带了两位女助手，亲自上门到我们家。

师父一踏进门，马上看见年约三岁的圣方，在客厅里玩乐。是的，因为我们已把香炉安奉在屋内，圣方可以在家里了。

我问师父，你两个星期前不是说看他是一个有尾巴的未成型胎儿吗？
啊！原来三年来我们没有侍养圣方，圣方无法成长，保持着那未成型的三个月胎儿的模样。
可是，这半个月来，我们晚晚祭拜，有了烟火及祭品，圣方就长大了，长成他该有的岁数的模样。

听后我的心很安了，圣方也在长大，而且可能有一天告诉我他要娶老婆了。
我忽然想起常常在报上看到的，为阴间的儿女办婚礼，原来就是同样的情况。

师父经过一轮和圣方的沟通，终於明白圣方的意愿。
原来，我们把圣方安奉在墙角并不好，他不喜欢。
圣方自己选择了枚姐姐平日写字玩红娃娃的客厅墙边，我们赶忙搬走枚姐姐的东西，腾出空间给圣方。师父马上亲手把圣方的香炉移玉到他所选择的福地。













师父也让圣枚姐姐向圣方烧香，并和圣方沟通了一段时间。两姐弟相认了，从此彼此相爱，互相照顾。
站在一旁的父母，不禁泪下。

可以认回圣方这个儿子，我当然高兴万分，多少的心酸，多少的身心折腾............我实在无法控制自已的激动和眼泪..........

备受折磨的枚姐姐 & 确认长孙男圣方

1。自从2007年6月小婶Ｊ怀孕后开始，每到夜晚，圣枚姐姐的下体就发生非常搔痒、疼痛折磨、哭喊有一枝针猛刺下体。
数个月来，寻访了各路中西医、驻院、扫描、儿科、妇科、尿泌科都看诊过了，也买了许多的新内裤新睡衣、更换睡床及床单，却始终没有查验出病因，更无从改善枚的痛苦、妈妈及外婆的担忧。

每到晚上，一换上睡衣，圣枚马上下体搔痒疼痛不止，她在床上翻腾哭喊、手猛捉下体，底裤也血迹斑斑。
抱着圣枚的妈咪，也被踢得浑身受伤疼痛。
妈咪看了实在心疼，却爱莫能助，只能在一旁流眼泪，不停涂止痒膏、扇风、及重复为枚洗阴部。








多少次看着她这般痛苦地在床上打滚哀号，彻夜不眠，妈咪逼於无奈，只好遵照西医所给的止痒药及安眠药，来减轻枚的辛苦及协助她入睡。
这一年下来，因为担忧，因为失眠，枚瘦了很多，脸旦儿都缩小了一大圈，妈咪也一样瘦弱无神了。





















2。除了数不清的各中西医门诊之外，更有两次夜半看到枚几乎痛痒得休克，深夜紧急将枚送入南华医院急救部。
医生为了彻查病因，让枚入院3天作彻底检验，包括抽血检验、尿液检验、尿液养菌、腹部超声波扫描，都显示枚完全正常，没有病毒感染或伤口。










众医生都认为，若是有任何的病情，肯定是日夜发作，而不是只“选择”在夜间发作的，因此，圣枚白天正常、夜晚发作的情况，在医学上是不成立的，甚至更被某名医生指为心理病。

看着年纪小小的枚，承受这样的折磨，怎么可能是心理病呢？
她天真坦率，这么痛苦挣扎的反应，哪里是装出来的呢？最后，主诊的儿科医生无药可施，甚至给了枚“镇定剂”，让妈咪气愤不已。

无计可施之下，妈咪拜托好友妇科医生伍炳华检查枚的私处。妈咪在一旁，看他使用一个特别的精密针孔仪器，在不伤害枚的情形下，详细为枚检查了阴道及下体，再验明完全正常无损，没有任何外来异物，也没有任何的感染。









3。2007年11月9日，怀胎后小婶J 第一次返回槟城（先前备受折磨，我们祭拜之后才好转），圣枚姐姐第一次见到怀孕的叔母，想不到“怪病”即场“发作”！

当我们在亚依淡旗山饭店见面不久，饭吃半途，圣枚已经是痛苦难奈，这是她第一次在天色未入黑的时候就“”提早“发作”，且“病情”极度严重。

晚餐也不吃，爸爸孟达一语惊醒梦中人，为什么我们不试试去找许生呢？既然这么多专科医生也都束手无策了，就向许生求助吧！许生的高深功力，曾协助我们，包括去年中止家婆毒咒大妈（奶奶）没仔生而祸害我连失两儿子的事实。


当孟载着我与枚赶抵时，人潮很多，原来在进行拜祭仪式。我牵着疼痛难奈的枚火速进入后殿求见许生。
当我还未开口说话，许生一见到我们飞奔进来，马上说“小妹妹，过来！” 就在枚前面施法颂经。不稍片刻，圣枚马上平静下来了。许生说，没事了。可以回家了。

我心中纳闷，追问他究竟什么事。许生说，没什么，是地主公和她开玩笑。我恍然大悟！折腾全家身心近3个月的烦恼，竟在一瞬间完全解决了！！
只是，我一语未出，许生竟可以看到枚遇到的问题，更教我完全对他的功力信服得五体投地。


回程的路上，圣枚轻松得哼歌谈笑，与来时的挣扎哭闹真是天渊之别啊！
当我把事件转告家婆M、同事及外婆时，大家都异口同声说：小孩在外小便得罪了地主公。我也姑且信之，每晚带圣枚向地主公忏悔。


4。可是，隔没多久，这种情况又再出现了，尤其是当2008年圣田弟弟在吉隆坡出生以后。
圣枚姐姐和妈咪都被折腾得消瘦无比，家人也都担忧不已。

到了2008年农历7月，圣枚姐姐夜间发作的情况更是每晚恶化，白天精神不振，消瘦无力，令人好不心疼难过，我们再向许生求救。

那一夜，许生与助手们群围颂经，即见到了一个未完全成型的胎儿现身，手中还持着一根约10寸长的东西，附在圣枚身上。
经过神灵的沟通，才知道他是我在2005年子宫外孕失掉的11周胎儿，我的长男黎圣方。5。噢....过去这一年来，因为圣德的事件，每个人都关心、祭拜、超渡圣德，使圣德得以在49天之内投胎回来黎家。可是，身为长兄的圣方，竟被我们忽略掉了。
尤其是当圣田出生之后，圣枚的“病情” 更加严重..........
原来.....
我们终於都恍然大悟了。

怪不得去年怀着圣田的小婶第一次回来槟城，圣枚见了叔母之后会忽然“严重发作”，原来那是圣方见了弟弟圣德获得投胎后的强烈反应！

我不解地询问许师父，那为何圣枚姐姐第一次见到怀孕叔母，即场“发作”的那晚，师父看到的是地主公呢？师父解释说，那时他的确只看到地主公。
原来地主公的其中一项任务是专门保护婴灵，尤其是被遗忘、抛弃、堕胎等无人祭拜的婴灵。因此，当时地主公看顾保护着圣方，而他一眼就看到地主公。
他也解释为什么人们用牛奶及糖果来祭拜地主公的理由。


6。FACTS & EVIDENCES
A：圣德投胎回黎家圣田的事实再度被证实！
B：师父所看见的男胎手中拿着的那枝东西，竟与医生为我进行人工流产的仪器一样！真是不可思议！怪不得圣枚常哭着说有一枝大针刺她的下体。
C：去年11月9日圣枚往见许生时所见到的地主公，原来就是扮演着保护幼婴幽灵的地主公。

圣方，对不起，我们都不懂，以为当时胎龄10周++的你尚未成型，没有好好加以超渡祭拜，可能也导致你错过了投胎的黄金期。

许生教导我们在家门口作了一些祭拜，并允许让黎圣方的名字，永永远远记载在黎家的族谱里。
希望圣方原谅我们过去3年的无心之失，并好好保佑全家平安。

公公婆婆也准备了祭品，亲自来到我们家中祭拜圣方，让圣方认宗师祖。



























高高的火焰，表示圣方高兴了。

















黎家的长孙男圣方，圣德的大哥





















圣枚就读的佛学校的园长MS GOH 也带领我们母女俩前往佛教界名闻遐迩的洪福寺求见开路师父。
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师父给了一些指点及佛经，在我们在家为圣方修慧。







友好涂仲仪医生也介绍了另一极负盛名的开宝师父为我们一家三口开示及颂经回向。


























承蒙遇上多位贵人，终於让圣方认宗师祖，也让我们全家都生活恢复平安吉祥。

圣方，你是我们的长男，也是黎家的长孙男，你的身份经被整个家族确认，也不会忘记你曾经的存在。
圣方，我们都希望你可以放下，福慧双修，早日找到善道。